Janie Fredell - probably a dull fuck

03/30/08

Permalink 07:05:28 pm, by u235 Email , 330 words, 257 views   English (US)
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Janie Fredell - probably a dull fuck

Abstinence, the dysfunctional solution to teen-pregnancy, is back in the news. This time with a bouncy Harvard student who feels compelled to tell everyone why she's frigid. Ok, well it's super that you found a solution in throwing away the prettiest and most attractive years of your life because you don't want sex, but being a poster-girl for bullshit like: "abstinence makes for better marital-sex", or "it improves your health is"... just that bullshit. Personally I'd love to see how a lack of experience makes you a better lover. I suppose if you're marrying some fumble-fingered virgin guy you'll both be excited enough to cream your pants just undressing for the first time, but trust me, that's not "good" sex.

On one hand I don't understand why these sexless-evangelicals can't just go about being abstinent silently. On the other hand, I'm very glad they don't, because it gives me something to laugh about.

"virginity is extremely alluring, though its mysterious allure . . . is not rooted in an image of innocence and purity, but rather in the notion of strength." As she told me later, "It takes a strong woman to be abstinent, and that’s the sort of woman I want to be."

Here - let me sum it up in one word: "Spinster".

Honey, you're really narrowing your field by limiting yourself to men who haven't had sex in their lives (or so they may claim). Part of growing up is developing your skills with the opposite gender, kissing, cuddling and yes, learning how to make-love with a degree of skill.

If you want to pass that up, fine, be our guest, but please... don't think you're unique or special. And by the way, hon? Oral sex is called oral sex for a reason, even if you choose to think of it otherwise. Still that might be the one saving grace for the abstinence followers: "Abstinence - you may be a lousy fuck but boy can you give great head."

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Comment from: Roulette [Member] Email
Those are good points, especially about the problems with inexperienced lovers.

Of course, my problem is with the idea that you are somehow less if you're not a virgin. A woman is not a slut because she had sex. A man is not a stud. Sex is not a marker that changes a person's being.

Virginity is well and good, but it's a choice. You are neither lessened or improved by sex. I was the same before sex as I was after.

Moreover, sex doesn't have to have all of the hangups people like Jamie put on it. Sex with a person you love is great. But you know what? One night stands may not be as good (debatable), but that doesn't mean it's bad. In fact... this may shock some of people... sex can feel good, regardless of the intensity of the feelings you have for the person you're with.

Look closer at Fredell's ideas. He claims masturbation and oral sex are both disgusting. I disagree about the first, and say that he has no idea with the second because he's never tried it. Seriously, when I want to know about a sexual act, I will ask someone that has actually done it. WTF.

Sex is good. Everyone may not agree. They're welcome to their opinions. I've been abstinent. I've been laid. I can speak on both subjects informatively. Jamie Fredell can't.
PermalinkPermalink 03/31/08 @ 15:32
Comment from: odessa [Member] Email
When I was "saving myself", I did it quietly. I wish these self righteous retards would do the same. And it isn't just evangelical Christians that act self righteous - I remember a fair share of Indian girl who looked down their noses at the American girls because they were virgins, wore it on their sleeves, and assumed all us American girls were soiled.
PermalinkPermalink 03/31/08 @ 21:54
Comment from: MD [Visitor] Email
Beliefs are very hollow in my eyes if they need to be accompanied by outward pleadings of agreement. Be abstinate quietly, don't go trumpeting it around like some badge of honor, trying to convince everyone else that it matters...just a continued part of the holier than thou approach that so many people take in life. Either agree with me so I can smile that I'm right, or I'll stick my nose up in the air because I'm otherwise just better than you!

Sex is as much a physical act as it is an emotional one. And sometimes it is just a physical act that one does. I sometimes hug someone because that kinda sorta feels good! Sometimes sex is just a way to feel good, physically.
PermalinkPermalink 04/01/08 @ 20:24
Comment from: Adam [Visitor]
Janie Fredell is absolutely right. You people are just weak-minded simpletons programmed by your immoral mass culture to adopt sex as your life's mission. To degrade yourself and the persons with whom you have sex. The fact is, abstinence has been proven effective in many districts and in many countries. However abstinence doesn't correspond to the biases of the immoral mass culture which does nothing but promote and encourage sex and thus abstinence is shunned and marginalized as a viable option and its practitioners and promoters degraded and attacked. But this is because our abstinence message is right and you people fear us; after all, if people start having morality, self respect and dignity who would have sex with your loose, std-ridden self? Nobody.
odessa, it's ironic that those who promote sex and slutty lifestyles are to be proud and shour pro-sex propaganda to the world while those who promote the opposite view should be quiet, reserved and even ashamed. We're not ashamed and we'll continue to share our views to help the misguided masses better themselves.
PermalinkPermalink 04/06/08 @ 09:29
Comment from: Eve [Visitor] Email
Well Adam you certainly know how to prove your point. I was breathless and damp as I read your manly putdowns and posings. I'm sure you're a regular manimal in bed... well once you take the pantyhose off that is.

So "our culture is immoral" and "sex is our life's mission"? Fascinating. Would this be our "American" culture? The kind of culture that creates Jon Benets and Patsy Clines? Or the one where women and blacks have the right to vote? What about the culture that sports both a massive military might and a political voice to support peace and international relations... oh wait that's the US as well.

The point here, and I'll spell it out because you clearly need some help, is that our culture supports *all* viewpoints with one caveat: you're entitled to say what you think so long as you're able and willing to take shit about it from people that disagree with you. And guess what? I disagree.

My stance is that abstinence is for retards. Take the two fourteen year olds in Texas that just gave birth: one in an airplane lavatory and one in her high school bathroom. How did abstinence work for them? Clearly it didn't, not in the same way that birth control would have. Promoting abstinence is promoting failure as a popular means of birth control. It's promoting abortion. It's promoting abuse. It's promoting teen pregnancy. It's promoting STDs. That's why brith control was invented, because men (and women) just can't say no 100% of the time.

Honestly I want to thank you for posting here. The quality and content of your rant go a long way to making the point of this post. That abstinence proponents are rabid-retards who can't participate in an intellectual discussion by contributing a useful perspective. I applaud your choice to eschew sex, in fact I encourage it.

Thank you, please post again!
PermalinkPermalink 04/07/08 @ 12:40
Comment from: Larathiel [Visitor] Email
If someone has the will-power to abstain from becoming sexually active until marriage then more power to them.

BUT

Just as how we are not allowed to *force* our ideologies upon others (see Freedom of Religion), even an idealist needs to recognize that a certain amount of pragmatism is called for. Simply speaking, unless You are an Islamic fundamentalist, then I don't know of any major religions that call for believers to put non-believers to be to-the-sword for not sharing their beliefs.

Christianity certainly doesn't. We can evangelize but judgment of such matters that don't fall under social crimes is left to The Lord.

IMO, it is un-Christian to make others to suffer simply for not having the same beliefs as whatever sect one happens to hail from. By refusing to teach even basic sex-ed awareness abstinence-only problems effectively bring about suffering to those who perhaps thru no fault of their own (bad parenting, etc.) just plain don't wait until they know the potential repercussions of their actions.

The irony then, is that because of the failure of this approach, rather than "putting out the 'evil'" from one's people (by curtailing unwanted pregnancies) instead the problem is simply compounded and we end up with more of these people that old Adam there deems 'evil and immoral'.
PermalinkPermalink 04/08/08 @ 23:17

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