Neural Fraud

Still bitching about this I see.

I started out pretty damn reasonable when you began this little bitch fest in IRC. I tried to explain his point of view so you'd understand why he did it. Having it banned is pretty damn annoying, I know. Been there, got the fucking t-shirt.

However, you decided to be a pain in the ass about it instead of stepping up and being reasonable about it.

Would have been simple: "Damn. Lara banned me. Oh, looks like he got annoyed at infofraud. Hey Lara, sorry about that, I'll try to make it less annoying. Please unban it"

See, easy. Lara's a nice enough person and would have done it. Hell, I would have done it myself.

But that's not what you did. You started out by making an idle joke about killing him. Then you went on about how devoice would have been the better way to deal with an annoyance. Then you continued to rip on him and told the rest of the channel to lighten up about it.

That was about the end of today's ration of "Nice guy Roulette". I devoiced you for about 30 seconds and re-voiced you (following your own suggestion for dealing with annoyances I might add); you cried a bit more, and left in a huff.

Sorry if I can't fully get on board the 'woe is nf' train.

You started reasonable? As if you had a reason to ever be unreasonable? I'm venting my goddamn anger here. I'm suddenly a pain in your ass? Maybe if, oh, I don't know, I hadn't been banned from the channel I would not have a reason to be a pain in anybody's ass.

You see, I have a short temper. You should have just let me finish venting, Oh, damn, was I interrupting your marathon of idle?

You're right though, I did rip on lara a lot, I really should have waited til he was there, so I could just bitch to him.

And yea, I did tell you guys to calm down. I don't ever fly off the handle and ban people for stupid crap, I get worked up over much more important things, like being personally disrespected by and in front of my peers. Who the hell are you to humiliate me and make me look like some poor fool? Get a nice laugh out of that did ya?

My ethics may be slightly different from yours, that is, if you have any.. but one thing is certain, I don't start by banning my channel members -- my fellow clan members because they or their bot is annoying me today.

I actually have respect for someone else with an @.

I'll just communicate to my friends via email from now on, because it sure isn't worth it to be fucked with by a couple of overzealous geeks.

As an aside, I don't have many friends, that is by choice. The friends I do have I like to keep close because they are honest, good people, and even if I had annoyed them some time in the past 5 or 6 years, I never knew about it.

When I was too poor to upgrade my computer to handle ut2003, my friends helped me by donating a video board, and a legit copy of 2k3, because they wanted me to be involved.

These were the people I played UT with, long before the time when a couple of clans decided to merge together and become Zeta, and eventually Kore.

I joined a little clan called Roger X - remember the Roger That! server? everyone played there. It was fun. We met the guys (and Girl(s)) from SoF, and many years later, a lot of people went separate ways, but a few are also still together.

http://nf.deviloution.com/media/Shot0005.jpg - those were good times.

I don't hang in the IRC channel for my fucking health. I hang there because that is where my friends are.

But then again, why should I bother showing my face in there again? So I can be kicked out for having whined too much for your liking? For being a cry baby? for not being as cool as you and Lara?

I'm not cool, and I don't want to be cool. I don't regret this bitch session here. I've been slapped in the face for the last time. Slapped in the face by people who don't even know me, and I refuse to sit back and take it.

Yes, I started out reasonable. I calmly explained the source of problem Lara had with your bot, in the hopes that you would take the appropriate action to resolve the situation. Instead, you continued to blast away with both barrels at lara and then decided to throw me under the train when I admitted that your bot had, on occasion, annoyed me too.

I suppose you're right. I could have ignored your little bitch fest. Ignored you bashing a friend of mine while he wasn't here to defend himself. And continued to make comments about killing him (however insincere you were) for having the audacity to ban your bot.

But you see, I don't work that way. Those comments disrespected him and it disrespected me. I don't tend to ignore people that do that.

On a further note, you continue to blow the voicing thing out of proportion. Especially after you told me it was the appropriate way to deal with people and bots that annoy me.

Do what you like. Come back. Don't. It doesn't matter to me a damn bit. Maybe it does to those people in the channel that like you.

You know what dude, you are completely and absurdly full of shit. Maybe you should go ahead and read the channel log, because I did, and I was almost calmed down at one point, where I could have just let go and been alright, until you had to stick your two cents in.


--LOG--

[nf] must be an elvish thing
[nf] im getting sick of elven anger.
[nf] sigh

--STOP--

Almost calm at this point, but then wait, you almost kicked cobra for talking with bots? You're a tightwad, seriously.

--RESUME--

[K^Roulette] his fuse is shortest with bots. I nearly did it a few times. But I've nearly booted cobra for yacking with bots too
[nf] dude
[nf] you guys all need to loosen the fuck up
[nf] its a channel with 15 people
[nf] a bot should not give you gray hairs
[nf] 15 bots shouldnt give you gray hairs
[nf] nearly booted is better than "did boot"
[nf] but hell, there's bigger things to worry about than irc bots!

[K^Roulette] that's true. But IRC bots are easy to fix and take little to no effort. Your crying about it has taken a lot more so far

--STOP--

Lets evaluate this. I was recovering, and trying to play it off, and wait, here you come with the offensive: "Your crying about it"

Now, shit, I'm pissed off again..Why did you say that? What are you trying to prove here?

--RESUME--

[nf] effort smeffot
[nf] its not about effort
[nf] its about im pissed off
[nf] wish i could bitch at lara but he aint here..

--STOP--

Now, so far, other than expressing how i wanted to kill lara, and sharpen my chef knife, where did I disrespect him, or continue ripping on him? I called him a dick, once, and that was it. I even explained I wished he was present, because I am not the kind of person who enjoys ripping on people when they're not around.

··· K^Roulette sets mode: -v nf
[K^Roulette] See. fixes are simple.

Exactly. I find myself banned after a vacation, I react, and I'm an annoying crybaby?

My point proven. You're a tightwad. Bots get under your skin for christ's sake. You had to make it a point to explain how annoying mine was and how annoying I was for being upset about the whole goddamn ordeal, but I was talking about your buddy so you couldn't just STFU... So you stir the shit back up and get me fired up again and I'm supposed to be the bad guy here? Hah!

Well damn. I go out of town for DragonCon for a few days and I miss all sorts of e-xcitement.

As I recall, I'd attempted to kick InfoFraud but when it auto-rejoined and wouldn't shut up, I added (what I thought was) a 10 second ban to foil it's auto-rejoin. Incidentally, I'd had an experience recently where de-voicing didn't mute a bot (even though the channel was set to moderated) which is why I went for the boot rather than devoicing as I normally would.

With that said, I didn't realize that the ban wasn't temporary nor did I have any intention of banning Your own personal account. For that, You have my apologies.

However... "Now, so far, other than expressing how i wanted to kill lara, and sharpen my chef knife, where did I disrespect him, or continue ripping on him?" At least where I come from, saying such things is never taken lightly. The last person who said such a thing to me (also behind my back) was a former roommate. Within minutes of me finding out, he was so terrified that he stated his intention to move out on his own and stayed in hiding at a friend's house until his parents could come and pick up his belongings.

Now granted, in Your case it's pretty well obvious that You're just pissed off at having been slighted and are letting off steam. Just be aware that such statements are not always taken as empty threats especially if it's behind the subject's back and in the context of lots of drama (as it was with my former roommate and his "friends").

Anyway, stuff a sock in Your bot's mouth and rejoin if You like. You Yourself should have never been banned to begin with...

-Larathiel

nf, I think you are blowing this out of proportion. You've idled here long enough to see that people here kick, ban, devoice each other on a regular basis. And there is never any animosity in it, usually people just screwing around. Usually its removed promptly, maybe a payback kickban is invoked, and life moves on, no harm no foul.

If you didn't let your temper get the best of you, you'd realize there was no disrepect involved. Just that some of us find the bots pretty damn annoying. I for one have them on perm ignore, but if I was the channel owner, I'd probably do the same as Lara. Respect goes both ways. Sure, the bots are ok by you, but beyond Cobra's love affair with them I don't think anyone else really cares for them.

You don't take being killed lightly, and I don't take being banned lightly, so we are in agreement.

And it is that simple, it was an oversight for which you apologized, so I Accept.

Roulette's response wasn't exactly helpful to my situation. Not once was the possibility of a mistake conveyed, but that I was simply an annoyance, along with my bot.

My temper does get the best of me because it is not the first time i've been kicked because Lara was trying to be a smart ass, and I bloody don't like it. Combine that with Roulette telling me im crying a river and devoicing me, and you get a fucking angry nf.

I reall could have just let it go. I really wanted to just let it go.

Heh. Imagine that. It's almost as if it were that simple:

NF: "Damn. Lara banned me. Oh, looks like he got annoyed at infofraud. Hey Lara, sorry about that, I'll try to make it less annoying. Please unban it"

Lara: "Oops. Made a mistake. My bad."

Wow.