Pro-choice, Pro-stupid.
07/28/06
Pro-choice, Pro-stupid.
I would have commented on u325's rant but was unable to due to this suck ass board software, so Im starting a new rant in response.
I am pro-life. I'll admit it. So is at least 1/2 of the US voting population. I am however understanding when abortion should be used and when it shouldnt be used.
The woman or girl whom is raped or abused by her father and becomes pregnant SHOULD be able to obtain an abortion.
The woman or girl whom is raped and becomes pregnant SHOULD be able to obtain an abortion.
The woman or girl whom is suffering from some physical condition that will cause her death or serious physical impairments if she carries the child to term SHOULD be able to obtain an abortion.
The woman or girl who's growing child is suffering from some extremely debilitating disease or birth defect that will grossly impair the childs ability to live by any accepted means SHOULD be able to obtain an abortion. (no brain, no lungs or heart, etc etc)
The woman or girl whom does not take any precautions before having consentual sex SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OBTAIN AN ABORTION. Sorry, but its an unfortunate biologically programmed result that should be considered irreversible unless one of the other horrible conditions I've mentioned above are met. Life's a bitch, there are complications, trials and tribulations.. get used to it.
Abortions are in epidemic proportions in many social circles. Albeit they probably exist more frequently in the lower income social ladders, it exists heavily in the middle and upper classes as well. Abortion does not follow monetary boundaries.
In reality this whole abortion debate is not about those examples I've given at the top... those reasons are valid in most people's eyes no matter how sad and unfortunate it may seem. However you cannot deny that all this uproar in the media and in society about abortion is due to the type of women whom repeatedly become pregnant and go to get an abortion to solve their problem. Some agencies report many of these sluts having upwards to 15 abortions throughout their lives!
Either they are too stupid to know what birth control is or they really dont give a damn about anything else but themselves. Perhaps we should take these stupid cunts and abort them at the same time we abort their fetuses, then we wont have to worry about repeat performances... at the very least sterilize them after their first abortion.
The whole problem with the bra-burners and pro-choice advocates is that they consider abortion as a legal self-right. Im sick to death of their response.. "ITS MY BODY", or check this one out.. "i cant afford it, im working". haha imagine that. Its better to be dead - Ok. Every time I hear that I want to puke. They want the right to do whatever is necessary to solve their immediate and future problems that may result from having the child. By those very same rules and thoughts, we should be able to snuff out anyone else who might impair our ability to happily exist in this world with no repercussions. We could solve many problems in this manner.
How many of your pro-choicers actually agree with the sluts that visit the abortion clinics repeatedly? It maddens me knowing that by promoting your bullshit that you are also adding controversy to the poor woman who was raped and wants an abortion or the poor couple who's child is missing a brain or other critical organ and they may have to consider aborting it.
Or is the repeat-abortion slut just as important in your eyes?
Next time one of you bra-burners or pro-choice left wing nutjobs get back from your rallies, put away your signs and propaganda and go to tuck your children in bed, stare at your child as they fall asleep in their beds, kneel right down next to them, look them in the face and say this:
I dont like you.
You are interfering with my life.
You may possibly interfere with it at some time in the future.
I do not wish to be inconvenienced by you now.
You are costing too much money.
I feel embarassed to tell my family, friends and peers about you.
Men wont look at me in the same way if they see I have you.
Im terminating you because its my right to do so - I am woman.
You must now die.
Die you pro-choice fuckers... die hard. Die hard in a fire.
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07/28/06 @ 13:18 Permalink
07/28/06 @ 13:23 You just called for about 50% of the nation's population (by your own reckoning) to die hard in a fire. And you call yourself pro-life?
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07/28/06 @ 13:50 I'll give you points for virulance, which is what the site is partially about but in terms of format and delivery of a message other than "Waaaaa" you lose hard.
Apparently by your own declaration you're only a "partial" pro-lifer. You certainly wouldn't cut it in a hard core pro-life environment like South America. The fact that you support exceptions means that you're not actually dedicated to the idea that "all life is scared". Instead it's more of a 'punishment phase' for the woman who made 50% of the choice.
It's nice to say that a woman who has unprotected sex should be responsible for the health and welfare of her progeny - but you completely neglect the sperm aspect. With the respectful exception of Mary (as mentioned by Laurel in the previous post comments) men actually DO play a part in the act of copulation. Further, the fact that men are stronger and more domineering makes it sometimes difficult or even impossible to implement contraception 100% of the time even if the woman demands it.
What about in the cases where contraception fails? Where does that fall into your rhetoric? What about when the man lies to her or runs off and she's left without support that she expected? What about the case when she's a stupid teenager and gets pregnant due to the impulses and inexperience of youth? Are those all non-starters as well?
As for the little vingette on telling off your child - it's hardly an issue. I have first-hand stories of fathers abusing children they had becuase they were "forced" to marry the woman they made pregnant. Children are sold into slavery. Children are abused and murdered by families, even by their own mothers. It's quite clear that having a baby is not a mandate to love and care for it.
Medical science has provided many routes for pregnancy, fertility and even cures for male impotence. Abortion is not an exception. I certainly don't debate your need to take viagra, I don't think it's your place to debate a woman's "need" to have an abortion.
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07/28/06 @ 13:51 The same is true of "extreme sports" athletes. They do stupid things, and they get hurt a lot. If some idiot wants to go snowboarding all the time without proper safety equipment, and he keeps breaking his leg, would you deny him medical care? Yes, it's his fault he's hurt. But if he can pay, no hospital is going to turn him away.
Or what about people who voluntarily get a lot of plastic surgery? There are people who get plastic surgery every year, because they feel like it. Is that not okay? Are there limits to how often people should be allowed to get other types of operations, or does it only apply to ab*rtions?
But I know you guys are too smart to fall for this false analogy. The flaw is obvious. See, frequently-injured snowboarders and people who get a lot of plastic surgery actually exist. So they have no place in a discussion of such fictional characters as bra-burning feminists, women who get dozens of abortions, and the Virgin Mary.
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07/28/06 @ 13:51 bman, by your own admission of what you think SHOULD be allowed and what is not, you are not pro-life. You aren't necessarily fully pro-choice either tho.
So be careful who you say should should die hard in a fire, since most pro-lifers would include you in that particular category ;) And besides, part of the pro-life mantra is the sanctity of all human life, seems quite rash to be wanting to kill off half the population due to a difference of opinion.
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07/28/06 @ 14:12 Amazing.. amazing. Based upon your thoughts and beliefs, maybe someone should have aborted you to prevent the spread of stupidism in society today.
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07/28/06 @ 14:19 Permalink
07/28/06 @ 14:47 Hello, reading comprehension 101, where are you? You appear to have left certain individuals in this thread....
From what I can tell, you've received all of 2 total comments about your 'die in a fire' comment. You happen to think its funny and anecdotal. Funny is a matter of opinion, personally, I thought it grew old about 3-4 years ago on various message boards, but I guess that is just me. Anecdotal? I'll just take your word for it...
As far as the 'meat and potatoes' of your arguement, you've also had plenty of replies that I guess you've blinded yourself to. One common comment is that you obviously don't even know that pro-life means. Other comments have directly addressed some of your points.
And, in all of that, only one person (u235) has made it clear where they stand on this issue as opposed to just pointing out opposing points to what you listed. So it seems presumptuous of you to know everyone's thought and beliefs...and then to declare them "stupid".
Only people I know that view the counter arguement of "well, you don't agree with me so you must be stupid" as a valid and powerful reply are gradeschool kids. But, based on your reading comprehension, perhaps that is the environment you are used to.
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07/28/06 @ 14:48 Of course, it could be that AZ is being sarcastic seeing as how about 30-40 years ago there WERE bra-burning feminists and seeing as there ARE women who get repeat abortions. Given past history though, I somewhat suspect they just talking out of their ass again.
WRT bman's post...
My opinions on the criteria of the matter are fairly similar to Your own. However, while I don't agree with women getting abortions if there's no medical reason not to carry the kid to term I'm not the one they are ultimately answerable to, God is. If someone I personally know approaches me on spiritual matters and wants to know more, I'm happy to talk with them about it but it's just not my style to go forcing my ways upon others.
For that reason, I classify myself as Pro-Choice though I guess I'm about as oddball for them as You are for the Pro-Life side of things.
With that said, I can't see a loving husband/boy-friend trying to force their wife/GF to carry the kid to term if it will jeopardize the woman's life. However, I also think it would be wrong for the woman to abort the child if the father is prepared to raise it. A fetus may grow inside the woman's body but once two people give themselves to each other their bodies are not *supposed* to be of their own anymore. Of course, if more people understood that I guess there wouldn't be so much casual sex in the first place...
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07/29/06 @ 11:41 I agree that it's a narrowminded and egocentric comment like the above that makes me believe that you're a complete and utter jackass.
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07/29/06 @ 14:43 http://womenshistory.about.com/od/mythsofwomenshistory/a/bra_burning.htm
While some women may get abortions more than once, I sincerely doubt the existence of women who get yearly abortions for decades, like bman referred to. Sounds like just another strawman, along with the "welfare queens" of the 1980s. If you have any proof, I'd love to hear it. (And please limit your proof to the last few decades. Bringing up Biblical history to prove a point is flawed on many, many levels, even if you believe the Bible is literally true.)
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