Moral convictions

03/08/07

Permalink 08:43:54 pm, by Roulette Email , 387 words, 75 views   English (US)
Categories: Political BS

Moral convictions

"I'm against the death penalty but I make an exception in his case"

The words inspire instant rage. My blood pressure rises. Steam out the ears. A sudden urge to grab up the closest larynx smasher and go to town.

I know it's irrational, but I can't stand people that waver with things like that. For the most part, the death penalty in the US is reserved for heinous crimes. Not just murder, gruesome murder. Even then, most of the time it can be reduced to life sentences or appealed down to something lighter. I understand people that have a moral issue with it. Personally, I don't have a problem with it. I support those that do object though. Voice your opinion. Good for you. If your voice is louder than mine, by all means, change the law. Democracy in action. Hoozah!

But... BUT... if you oppose the death penalty out of some sort of moral conviction that killing someone is wrong... don't expect me to go lightly on you when your ass waffles on the issue. I don't care if the fucker was gang raping 6 year old boys on the front steps of the courthouse while sodomizing your mother. I don't care if he slowly mutilated and tortured your best friend's mother to death over the course of a six month kidnapping. You don't get to claim moral authority and then back off when something hits close to home for you. Because murder is always close to home to someone bitch. It's always someone's mother, brother, uncle, cousin, friend or daughter. If you oppose the punishment for them, you damn sure better stick to your guns when the case effects you somehow.

Sorry, no "get-out-hypocrisy-free" cards accepted here. If you accept that one mother fucker can be put to death for his crimes, you accept the argument that some crimes are worthy of the death penalty. If you're against the death penalty, you're against it no matter how vile and disgusting the crime is. If you believe there are crimes that deserve a death sentence, you're FOR the fucking death penalty. You're just arguing over where to draw the fucking line. There isn't a gray area here. Yes or no. Accept it's use or decry it's use. Do or don't.

End of story, end of discussion.

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Comment from: Roulette [Member] Email
A coworker I was discussing this with brought up an old joke:

A guy and a girl are parked in lover's lane. He asks her if she would have sex with him for a million dollars. She thinks about it and quickly says "sure".

So then he asks if she would have sex with him for twenty bucks.

Shocked and upset she says "What kind of girl do you think I am?"

"We have already established that, now we are just haggling over price."



Same idea. Different topic.
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/07 @ 07:22
Comment from: odessa [Member] Email
It is interesting how some people can not see their own hypocricy. Perhaps this person has had a change of heart? That I would accept. Its hit close to home and now they can see how victim's families really feel - I can buy that. But that is a change of heart - not a "only in this instance".

I will admit, I go a bit back and forth on the death penalty issue. Not so much out of distain for putting a murderer to death. I don't know which is a worse punishment.
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/07 @ 07:50
Comment from: Abba Zabba [Member] Email
Depending on the situation, that's a reasonable thing to say.

A lot of people oppose the death penalty because it's so hard to carry it out fairly. To make sure that an innocent person isn't put to death, there need to be a lot of trials, special appeals, etc. That makes it very expensive and complicated. And the death penalty is disproportionately applied to poor minorities, so that's another fairness issue.

But sometimes it's pretty clear-cut that someone committed the crime. Like if someone is caught on a bank surveillance camera as he enters the bank, shoots a dozen customers, and flees with the money. In that case, the guy committed a heinous crime and there's really no grounds for appeal, so the fairness issues don't apply. Of course, it wouldn't matter. If the death penalty is illegal, there won't be any exceptions, no matter how much the guy deserves it.

I agree with you in general. If someone says that all killing is wrong, under any circumstances, then it's hypocritical of them to support the death penalty even once. But that's not the only objection to the death penalty. And even people who do believe that killing is wrong will make exceptions sometimes based on the circumstances.
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/07 @ 09:15
Comment from: Roulette [Member] Email
Abba, I've got to disagree. If you're against the death penalty, you MUST be against it in all forms.

If you don't like the way that it's used (minorities, lower income, etc.) you're still FOR the death penalty. You just have an issue with the degree to which is should be used.

Totally different stances.
PermalinkPermalink 03/09/07 @ 15:33

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