Ain't it too bad . . .

04/22/07

Permalink 08:58:51 am, by odessa Email , 270 words, 93 views   English (US)
Categories: Things that make me go "hmmm"

Ain't it too bad . . .

I listen to all kinds of music, and I explore all kinds of music. I have recently come across a rapper named Lady Sovereign. Her fast staccato raps are well put together and many are funny as hell. She is so good, that Def Jam's Jay-Z (for you that don't know, a pretty big fish in the rapper world) wants to bring her into his house.

Here's her problem - she's white (sometimes dubbed the Fem-Emenem) and she is British. Much of her subject matter has to do with being British and poking fun of London. But just as much has to do with making fun of some of our pop-culture across "the pond". My self and some of my peers get her humor, but I am not the in best demographic for boosting rap record sales. The demographic she would be shooting for isn't interested in world politics. It is likely lucky if they can squeak by with a passing grade in social studies, world studies, whatever the education establishment wants to call it these days.

Unfortunately for very talented world artists, we are a myopic culture, us Americans. Much of the world gobbles up our culture. However, we completely ignore most of theirs. Even when an artists from around the world occasionally regurgitate some of our stuff (i.e. rap) back at us, with their own very worthwhile slant. And in this case, you can't even claim language as a barrier - the girl raps in English, with a British accent to our American ears, but English never the less.

I think collectively, we need to seriously get over ourselves.

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Comment from: Roulette [Member] Email
Well, apparently she's on tour with Gwen Stephani, so she can't be doing too badly in the US. If nothing else, she's getting a lot of exposure.

Just listened to some of her stuff. She's not bad. But I don't think he problem is her subject matter really. Sure, that's part of it.

I think he problem is that her raps are built on a different type. Hard to explain but it just feels more techno or rave base music than the urban bass driven music popular here. Which makes sense because a lot of the European music is heavily influenced by that still. But American buyers don;t seem to flock to it in the same way.

I do disagree on one point. There are language barriers for her. She uses a lot of slang that may not translate very well. Once or twice she even acknowledges it, and says that people that try to use american-ism are selling out.

I dunno. She's not bad. Not sure if I'll add her to my collection yet. Probably just keep an eye out from time to time.
PermalinkPermalink 04/22/07 @ 11:40
Comment from: odessa [Member] Email
My point was far more general and Lady Sovereign was an example. She may not be your cup of tea (pun very much intended), but she is equally as talented as many successful artist - American artists. There are many, many more artists that are as talented, and in some cases more, than many American artists, but just because they might have a slightly different cultural slant (and yes, slang, too), they are not take seriously. I think we are missing out on a lot.
PermalinkPermalink 04/22/07 @ 13:52
Comment from: Roulette [Member] Email
Oh, I see your point. I was mostly commenting on this example. In general, you're right. More of our artists influence their music than vice versa. But the US goes through swings of multiculturalism. The brits have the best luck of it of all of the other countries though. The British invasion and the repeated mini invasions. Generally pushing a new sound or twist on sound.

They don't do so well at appealing to the public if they're just doing the same thing as we're doing over here already.

I think the reason for that is that we have millions of aspiring artists here already. It's easier to give one of them a chance than to look outside for it.

Thankfully, for those that are interested, the internet has opened up the borders quite a bit. new audiences not governed by the big publishers.
PermalinkPermalink 04/22/07 @ 14:13
Comment from: sTmykal [Member] Email
I caught some 10 min inspirational spot for her on the cable box one day. One thing that's refreshing is that she's not some super model by-product of the coporate machine.
PermalinkPermalink 04/23/07 @ 13:52
Comment from: Roulette [Member] Email
My girlfriend and I just had a discussion along these lines today. She said that a lot of it is caused by language and our understanding of it.

In many other countries, people don't need to understand the lyrics to enjoy them. They can listen and appreciate the base music.

However, Americans identify with the lyrics of the song. So, when you have lyrics that don't make sense (slang, culture or language), American listeners automatically withdraw from the song.

I thought it was an interesting explanation.
PermalinkPermalink 04/25/07 @ 00:27
Comment from: odessa [Member] Email
That is an interesting explanation. It also makes some sense of the example of Der Kommisser, by Falco in the late 80's. It was rather lackluster redone by an American group, whom I don't remember because I personally refuse to give it that much space in my brain. I own Falco's version.
PermalinkPermalink 04/25/07 @ 19:20
Comment from: bman [Member] Email
ya same with that singer Nina who did the song 99 red balloons back in the mid 80s. IIRC, the song was relased here with no english translation. Seems I've heard it fairly recently on the air too.. but it was the english verison.
PermalinkPermalink 04/26/07 @ 13:02
Comment from: Roulette [Member] Email
I thought Nina did the English version too. I've heard both version on the radio, but the German is obviously superior. Flows better.

PermalinkPermalink 04/26/07 @ 20:26
Comment from: odessa [Member] Email
Nina did both the English and the German. Her album (yes I have it) has songs in both languages 99 Luftbaloons and 99 Red Balloons are both on there.
PermalinkPermalink 04/26/07 @ 23:18

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